Thrive In Design

S9, E7: The Brand Story Blueprint: How to Get Specified by Designers with Adam Kubryk and Brooke Taylor

In this episode of Thrive In Design, host Nicole Lashae Hall sits down with Brooke Taylor and Adam Kubryk, co-founders of Vendor Bootcamp, to unpack what it truly takes for hospitality vendors to stand out, get specified, and stay relevant in an increasingly competitive market.
Drawing from decades of combined experience across design, branding, and global sales, Brooke and Adam reveal why most vendors struggle to differentiate—and how shifting from product-first thinking to strategic storytelling can transform your business. They break down the “Brand Story Blueprint,” offering actionable insights on how to align your messaging with what designers, purchasing agents, and owners actually care about.
The conversation dives deep into common industry misconceptions, including why vendors should stop “selling to designers” and instead empower them as an extension of their sales team. You’ll also learn how process, not just product, plays a critical role in brand perception—and why simplifying your messaging (“say less, look better”) can dramatically improve your chances of being specified.
Whether you're new to hospitality or looking to scale your brand presence, this episode delivers practical strategies to help you move from scattered efforts to intentional growth.
 
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction to Thrive In Design and episode overview01:00 Meet Brooke Taylor & Adam Kubryk + Vendor Bootcamp origin story03:29 Industry frustrations and the gap in vendor-focused conversations06:06 Why vendors must align messaging with real buyer questions07:00 The power of dual perspectives: design vs. sales11:00 Inside Vendor Bootcamp: process, advisory board, and insights14:16 Market realities: differentiation vs. commoditization18:20 Case study: building a brand story that scales globally22:00 What designers actually need from vendors24:00 Differentiating in crowded categories (especially custom products)28:27 Tactical advice: stop selling to designers30:30 Understanding ROI and where your product fits in the value chain35:37 AI in hospitality: tools vs. strategy42:02 What vendors must unlearn to stay relevant45:00 Final thoughts and where to connect with Vendor Bootcamp
 
Key Quotes
“Stop selling to designers—they’re not your buyer. They’re your sales team.”
“If you’re not differentiated, you’re invisible.”
“Say less. Show your best. That’s what gets specified.”
“Your process matters more than you think—it’s what people remember.”
“If you don’t understand how your product impacts ROI, you’re just selling something.”
 
🔗 Connect with Adam Kubryk and Brooke Taylor
To learn more about Adam Kubryk and Brooke Taylor and their work shaping the future of design and the built environment, connect with them and Vendor Bootcamp:
Connect with Adam on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/adam-kubryk-12003539
Connect with Brooke on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/brookentaylor
Follow Vendor Bootcamp on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/vendor-bootcamp/
Visit the Vendor Bootcamp website: https://vendorbootcamp.com/
You can also reach them directly through their email below:
Adam’s Email: adam@vendorbootcamp.com
Brooke’s Email: brooke@vendorbootcamp.com
 
🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design
Follow Thrive In Design for insights on design leadership, business strategy, and growth in the A&D industry:
• Website: https://www.thriveindesign.co/• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveindesign/• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveindesign/• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thriveindesign
 
🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design
• Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/• Join the Thrive In Design: AI in Design Summit on May 20, 2026: https://tidsummit.com/
 
👋 Connect with Nicole
• Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben

S9, E6: Inside the Shifts Reshaping Design, Manufacturing, and Brand Trust with Amanda Schneider

In this episode of Thrive In Design, host Nicole Lashae Hall sits down with Amanda Schneider, Founder and President of ThinkLab, to unpack what it really takes to build a purpose-driven product brand in today’s evolving design industry.
Amanda shares the origin story behind ThinkLab and how her journey—from product design to research leadership—revealed a critical gap between manufacturers and designers. Backed by powerful data, she explains why designers hold up to 140x the recommendation power of the average consumer—and why brands can no longer afford to ignore that influence.
The conversation dives deep into the state of the design industry heading into 2026, including the shifting balance between sales and marketing, signs of industry maturity, and the growing awareness of how physical spaces impact human experience. Amanda also explores how hybrid work, generational shifts, and digital transformation are forcing brands to rethink outdated systems and embrace new strategies.
If you're a manufacturer, marketer, or design leader looking to stay relevant, align your teams, and future-proof your brand, this episode delivers both strategic insight and actionable direction.
⏱️ Timestamps
00:00 Introduction to Thrive In Design & episode overview
01:00 Meet Amanda Schneider & the mission behind ThinkLab
02:29 The origin story: bridging the gap between product brands and designers
04:00 Why designers hold massive influence (40x–140x buying power)
06:00 Evolution of ThinkLab & scaling through acquisition
08:50 Gen Z, the future of work, and redefining workplace expectations
10:30 The 3 biggest industry shifts heading into 2026
11:00 Sales vs. marketing imbalance in a hybrid world
13:30 Industry maturity, consolidation, and market decline signals
15:00 A new opportunity: human awareness of physical space
17:30 Why sales and marketing silos are hurting brands
20:30 The alignment gap: leadership vs. frontline teams
22:30 Why there’s no “quick fix” for industry transformation
25:30 Generational gaps and the future workforce
30:00 Digital-first vs. analog-first thinking across generations
33:00 The importance of soft skills and change management
35:00 Shrinking attention spans and the new rules of communication
37:00 The evolving role of reps in a digital-first world
38:00 Amanda’s new book Work for What’s Next
39:00 Final thoughts: why this is a defining moment for the design industry
💬 Key Quotes
“Designers have 40 times the recommendation power of the average consumer—and up to 140 times at the top level.”
“You either disrupt your own business… or you will be disrupted.”
“The industry didn’t just evolve—the systems changed.”
“15 minutes is the new hour when it comes to sales conversations.”
“The brands that win will align human capital with digital tools—not replace it.”
👉 Learn more about Amanda
To learn more about Amanda Schneider and her work shaping the future of design and the built environment, connect with her and ThinkLab:
Connect with Amanda on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandajeanschneider
Follow ThinkLab on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thinklab-design/
Visit the ThinkLab website: https://thinklab.design/
Listen to the Design Nerds Anonymous podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/design-nerds-anonymous/id1534887549
You can also reach Amanda directly at aschneider@sandowdesign.com.
👉 Pre-order Amanda’s upcoming book, Work for What’s Next
Amazon (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/4c1azOY
Barnes & Noble: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/work-for-whats-next-amanda-schneider/1149016023?ean=9781394390885
🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design
Follow Thrive In Design for insights on design leadership, business strategy, and growth in the A&D industry:
Website: https://www.thriveindesign.co/• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveindesign/• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveindesign/• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thriveindesign
🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design
Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/• Join the Thrive In Design: AI in Design Summit on May 20, 2026: https://tidsummit.com/
👋 Connect with Nicole
Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben

S9, E5: From Concept to Contract: A Go-To-Market Sales Playbook for Interior Product Brands with Nicole Lashae Hall

In this episode of Thrive In Design, host Nicole Lashae Hall breaks down a critical misconception holding interior product brands back: confusing a product launch with a true go-to-market strategy. While many brands excel at creating beautiful, innovative products, far fewer understand how to effectively commercialize them for long-term specification success.
Nicole explains why most product failures aren’t due to poor design—but rather a lack of strategic alignment across marketing, sales, and product teams. She highlights how siloed workflows, unclear messaging, and lack of sales enablement lead to missed opportunities, even for high-quality products. Drawing on industry research and real-world experience, she emphasizes that designers often make the majority of their decisions before ever speaking to a sales rep—making early-stage clarity and positioning essential.
You’ll also learn the difference between a “launch moment” and a sustainable go-to-market system. Nicole introduces a practical five-step framework that guides brands from market clarity to conversion, ensuring momentum doesn’t drop off after the initial reveal. This episode is a must-listen for interior product brands ready to move beyond reactive marketing and build a repeatable, strategic path to growth.
Timestamps
00:00 – Introduction to Thrive In Design Podcast Overview of the show’s mission and focus on aligning strategy, storytelling, and systems.
01:00 – The Core Problem: Launch vs. Strategy Why most product failures stem from weak go-to-market strategies—not poor design.
02:00 – Industry Insight: Great Products, Weak Commercialization How interior product brands excel at creation but struggle to bring products to market effectively.
04:00 – The Danger of Siloed Teams How misalignment between product, marketing, and sales creates confusion and lost opportunities.
06:00 – What the Data Says Key research insights: buyer behavior, decision-making timelines, and revenue impact of alignment.
08:00 – Why Product Launches Lose Momentum The drop-off after launch and lack of post-launch structure.
10:00 – Launch vs. Go-To-Market Explained Understanding the difference between a one-time event and an ongoing system.
13:00 – The 5-Step Go-To-Market Framework Market clarity, positioning, sales enablement, momentum building, and conversion strategy.
16:00 – Sales Enablement Gaps Why reps often lack the tools and direction needed to succeed.
17:30 – Building Momentum Before Demand How belief, education, and confidence drive early interest.
18:00 – Turning Interest into Specification Why the first order matters and how to create consistent conversion pathways.
19:00 – Final Takeaways & Reflection Questions Key questions to evaluate your current go-to-market strategy.
Key Quotes
“Most products don’t fail because they’re poorly designed—they fail because they’re launched without a real go-to-market strategy.”
“A launch is a moment. A go-to-market strategy is a system.”
“Great design is only half the job—the other half is how the market experiences it.”
“Designers don’t sell your products—they justify them.”
“The fastest-growing brands aren’t improvising—they’re executing a plan.”
🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design
Follow Thrive In Design for insights on design leadership, business strategy, and growth in the A&D industry:
Website: https://www.thriveindesign.co/• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveindesign/• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveindesign/• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thriveindesign
🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design
Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/
Join the Thrive In Design: AI in Design Summit on May 20, 2026: https://tidsummit.com/
👋 Connect with Nicole
Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben

S9, E4: From Press to Pipeline: How Strategic PR & Authentic Storytelling Drive Growth in Design Brands with Susan Fernandez

Marketing in the built environment is evolving quickly—and interior product brands that want to grow must rethink how they approach storytelling, PR, and go-to-market strategy.
In this episode of the Thrive In Design Podcast, host Nicole Lashae Hall sits down with Susan Fernandez, Senior Vice President of Marketing at UpSpring, to unpack how manufacturers and building product brands can stand out in an increasingly competitive marketplace.
Susan shares her journey from studying graphic design at Pratt Institute and working with legendary creative leaders in New York advertising agencies to founding her own marketing firm and eventually joining UpSpring. Along the way, she discovered a key insight: even technical products must connect with people emotionally through compelling brand storytelling.
Together, Nicole and Susan explore the evolving role of PR, marketing, and AI in the design industry—from why thought leadership is becoming essential in the age of large language models to how brands can use integrated strategies to increase visibility, credibility, and specification opportunities.
They also dive into practical tactics for product brands, including how to prepare for trade shows, why paid media is still underutilized in the AEC industry, and how manufacturers can structure their messaging and content so that AI tools and designers can easily evaluate their products.
If you're an interior product manufacturer, marketer, or sales leader looking to grow specifications and build stronger brand authority, this episode is packed with insights you can apply immediately.
Timestamps
00:00 – Introduction to the Thrive In Design PodcastNicole Lashae Hall introduces the show and its focus on strategy, storytelling, and growth for interior product brands.
01:00 – Meet Susan FernandezNicole introduces Susan’s background, including her role as SVP of Marketing at UpSpring.
02:40 – Susan’s Journey Into Design and ArchitectureHow childhood experiences exploring architecture shaped her career path.
05:00 – From Creative Agencies to the Built EnvironmentSusan shares how working with both major consumer brands and B2B companies shaped her marketing perspective.
07:45 – Why Storytelling Matters in B2B MarketingSusan explains why even technical products must connect emotionally with audiences.
10:30 – Moving Beyond Product Features to Brand SeductionHow brands can create emotional connections instead of relying solely on performance messaging.
12:00 – What UpSpring Does for AEC and Product BrandsSusan explains how the firm helps companies scale through integrated PR and marketing strategies.
14:00 – Using PR to Enter New MarketsA creative example of how a thought leadership campaign helped a firm break into the cruise ship industry.
18:30 – Common Misconceptions About PRWhy PR is much more than press releases—and why it's becoming more important in the age of AI.
22:30 – The Role of AI and Large Language Models in Product DiscoveryHow designers are increasingly using AI to evaluate building products.
24:00 – Structuring Product Information for AI and DesignersWhy manufacturers must make product data clear, searchable, and accessible online.
27:00 – The Core Pillars of an Effective Go-to-Market StrategyPR, marketing, SEO, thought leadership, and industry presence.
29:00 – Why Paid Advertising Is Still Underused in the IndustrySusan shares why paid media will become increasingly important.
31:30 – The Strategic Role of Trade Shows TodayHow brands should prepare for events to maximize ROI.
34:30 – Training Your Booth Team for SuccessWhy most companies miss opportunities at trade shows.
37:00 – Creative Partnerships and Booth ExperiencesHow collaborations can elevate a brand’s presence at industry events.
39:30 – Measuring Marketing ROIHow brands should evaluate success across PR, marketing, and sales strategies.
41:30 – Why Brands Must Be Willing to ExperimentThe importance of testing strategies—even if some fail.
44:00 – Final Advice for Brands in 2026Susan emphasizes authenticity as the most powerful storytelling strategy.
45:00 – Where to Connect with Susan FernandezNicole shares how listeners can learn more about UpSpring and connect with Susan.
Key Quotes
“Everything you use to communicate—whether it's a poster, a website, or a TV spot—has to tell a story that is seductive.”
“People don’t buy in bullet points. We all buy on emotion.”
“PR isn’t a nice-to-have anymore—it’s a credibility engine.”
“If you want to be in an industry conversation, you have to join it before you have the experience.”
“Authenticity rules. Designers want the real story, not fluff.”
 
Connect with Susan
To learn more about Susan Fernandez and her work shaping the future of design and the built environment, connect with her and UpSpring:
Connect with Susan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanwalshfernandez/
Follow UpSpring on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/weareupspring/ 
Follow UpSpring on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/weareupspring/ 
Follow UpSpring on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/weareupspring/ 
Follow UpSpring on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UpSpringPR 
Visit the UpSpring website: https://www.weareupspring.com/
You can also reach Susan directly at susan@upspringpr.com. 
 
🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design
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🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design
Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/• Join the Thrive In Design: AI in Design Summit on May 20, 2026: https://tidsummit.com/
👋 Connect with Nicole
Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben

S9, E3: Strategy That Sells: Why Most Product Brands Are Underprepared for the Future of Design with Nicole Lashae Hall

Many interior product brands believe they have a visibility problem. But according to Nicole Lashae Hall, the real issue is something deeper: a strategy gap.
In this episode of the Thrive and Design Podcast, Nicole explores how the design industry has quietly but permanently shifted — and why many brands are still operating with outdated sales and marketing assumptions. Designers are discovering products digitally, forming opinions long before meeting a sales rep, and increasingly prioritizing brands that provide education, transparency, and meaningful narratives rather than pure product promotion.
Nicole breaks down how the pandemic accelerated these changes and why hybrid work, digital-first discovery, and generational shifts (especially among Millennial and Gen Z designers) are reshaping how specification decisions happen. Brands that rely only on product visibility, trade shows, or sales-driven messaging risk becoming invisible in a crowded marketplace.
Instead, success now requires alignment between marketing, storytelling, and sales behavior. Nicole shares the most common strategic exposures she sees in interior product brands today — including visibility without positioning, sales messaging without narrative, and activity without clear strategy.
If your brand is investing heavily in marketing but still struggling to win specifications, this episode will help you rethink your approach and build a clearer path forward.
Timestamps
00:00 – Welcome to Thrive and DesignNicole introduces the podcast and the mission: helping interior product brands turn insights into strategic action.
01:14 – The Strategy Gap Most Brands Don’t SeeWhy many brands think they need more visibility when the real issue is strategic positioning.
02:25 – How Product Sourcing Has Changed Post-PandemicThe shift from traditional in-person sales toward digital discovery and hybrid engagement.
05:18 – The Rise of Digital-First Product DiscoveryDesigners now research brands online before ever meeting a rep.
07:25 – What Research Shows About Designer Decision-MakingDesigners rely more on peer recommendations, digital platforms, and educational content.
10:33 – What Millennial and Gen Z Designers Value MostSustainability, brand alignment, and clear narratives now influence specification decisions.
12:47 – Why Education Beats Product PromotionBrands that provide tools, insights, and learning opportunities build stronger relationships.
15:10 – What Hasn’t Changed (But Should)Trade show spending, undertrained sales reps, and disconnected marketing and sales teams.
18:20 – The Three Biggest Brand Exposures TodayVisibility without direction, sales without story, and tactics without strategy.
21:00 – How Brands Can Shift Their StrategyMove from exposure to positioning, from silos to alignment, and from tactics to foresight.
23:20 – Turning Insights Into ActionWhy brands that win specifications operate from a clear strategic roadmap.
Key Quotes
“Most product brands think they have a visibility problem. What they actually have is a strategy gap.”
“Designers expect brands to educate, not just sell.”
“Exposure without a narrative creates awareness, but not loyalty.”
“If your growth strategy assumes designers will figure out why you matter, you’re already behind.”
“The future of design doesn’t reward the loudest brands. It rewards the clearest ones.”
 
🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design
Follow Thrive In Design for insights on design leadership, business strategy, and growth in the A&D industry:
Website: https://www.thriveindesign.co/• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveindesign/• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveindesign/• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thriveindesign
🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design
Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/• Join the Thrive In Design: AI in Design Summit on May 20, 2026: https://tidsummit.com/
👋 Connect with Nicole
Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben
 

S9, E2: Expanding the Role of Design: From Buzzwords to Better Business with Cheryl Durst

In season 9, episode 2 of the Thrive In Design Podcast, host Nicole Lashae Hall welcomes Cheryl Durst, Executive Vice President and CEO of the International Interior Design Association (IIDA), for a powerful conversation about expanding the role of interior design beyond aesthetics and into measurable business and human impact.
With more than 30 years in the industry, Cheryl shares her journey from educator and journalist to global design leader — and why she believes design is not passive, but a strategic driver for revenue, equity, belonging, and organizational change. Together, Nicole and Cheryl explore how designers must evolve their language to better communicate ROI, outcomes, and impact to the C-suite and stakeholders across the ecosystem.
The conversation dives into the future of the profession — from IIDA’s Certified Design Futurist program and the difference between forecasting and foresight, to how manufacturers can leverage demographic shifts and cultural signals to design proactively. They also unpack insights from IIDA’s Industry Roundtable on generational intelligence and the power of multi-generational collaboration in shaping the built environment.
Finally, Cheryl shares the mission behind IIDA’s Design Your World program — an initiative introducing underrepresented high school students to interior design as a viable and impactful career path — and why playing the long game is essential for building a more equitable future for the profession.
If you’re a manufacturer, designer, or industry leader looking to align strategy, storytelling, and impact, this episode offers clarity and conviction on where design is headed — and how to lead it forward.
Timestamps
00:00 – “Design is a driver”: Reframing the value of design01:14 – Cheryl Durst’s journey from educator to CEO of IIDA05:18 – Why design is more than aesthetics — it’s business strategy09:10 – The language gap between designers and the C-suite12:25 – Evidence-based design, metrics, and articulating ROI15:19 – Interior design as art, science, and business18:41 – Certified Design Futurist: What foresight really means22:56 – Forecasting vs. foresight — what’s the difference?24:24 – How manufacturers can apply strategic foresight29:11 – IIDA Industry Roundtable: Generational intelligence insights33:08 – Mentorship across generations34:57 – Design Your World: Expanding access for Black and brown students39:08 – How to connect with IIDA
Key Quotes
“It is not passive. It is a driver for your business goals. It is a driver for equity and belonging. It is a driver for revenue.”
“Design is about what happens on the receiving end.”
“Interior design is an art, a science, and a business.”
“You can’t just let the future happen to you.”
“Design isn’t about things. Design is about people.”
Relevant Links
To learn more about Cheryl Durst and her work shaping the future of design and the built environment, connect with her and International Interior Design Association (IIDA):
Connect with Cheryl on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheryl-durst-hon-fiida-386335a/
Follow IIDA on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/iida/
Follow IIDA on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/IIDAHQ/
Follow IIDA on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iida_hq/ 
Visit the IIDA website: http://www.iida.org
You can also reach Cheryl directly at cdurst@iida.org.
🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design
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🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design
Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/• Join the Thrive In Design: AI in Design Summit on May 20, 2026: https://tidsummit.com/
👋 Connect with Nicole
Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben
 

S9, E1: Strategy That Sells: The Season 9 Reset on Positioning and Clarity with Nicole Lashae Hall

Welcome to the Thrive in Design Podcast, hosted by Nicole Lashae Hall, founder of Thrive in Design. This podcast is for interior product brands ready to move beyond scattered marketing, outdated sales tactics, and visibility for visibility’s sake—and into clarity, alignment, and real momentum.
In this opening episode of Season 9, Nicole reintroduces the podcast, shares her personal and professional evolution, and clearly defines who this show is for: interior product manufacturers, marketers, and sales leaders navigating change in a post-pandemic, AI-influenced design industry. She explains why many brands feel “stuck” despite doing all the things—and why the real issue is often positioning, not visibility.
Nicole also outlines what makes this season different. Expect deeper conversations around go-to-market strategy, designer–vendor dynamics, brand clarity, and the practical role of AI in sales, product development, and marketing. This season is designed to challenge assumptions, encourage strategic thinking before execution, and help brands become the ones designers actually remember—and specify.
If you’re looking to sharpen your brand story, align sales and marketing, and build systems that scale without constant reinvention, this episode sets the foundation for everything to come.
⏱ Timestamps
00:00 – 01:45 | Welcome to the Thrive in Design Podcast + Nicole’s reintroduction
01:46 – 03:30 | What Thrive in Design does and who this podcast is for
03:31 – 05:30 | Why this podcast exists and the impact it’s had so far
05:31 – 07:45 | Why Season 9 is different: clarity, experience, and research
07:46 – 09:45 | Go-to-market strategy, brand storytelling, and what’s changing
09:46 – 11:45 | Designer–vendor dynamics and generational shifts
11:46 – 13:30 | How AI fits into sales, marketing, and product development
13:31 – 15:30 | Visibility vs. positioning: identifying the real problem
15:31 – 17:15 | Why effort does not equal impact
17:16 – 18:55 | Strategy before tactics: websites, messaging, and campaigns
18:56 – 20:45 | What designers actually remember—and why it matters
20:46 – 22:20 | Guests and conversations coming this season
22:21 – End | Spec Ready framework, AI & Design Summit, and what’s next
💬 Key Quotes
“Visibility is not the same thing as clarity.”
“Effort does not equal impact. Noise does not equal strategy.”
“If designers can’t retell your value in one sentence, you’re forgettable.”
“Strategy clarifies who you’re for, sharpens what you’re known for, and makes decisions easier for your buyer.”
“Clarity—not noise—is what sells now.”
🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design
Follow Thrive In Design for insights on design leadership, business strategy, and growth in the A&D industry:
Website: https://www.thriveindesign.co/• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveindesign/• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveindesign/• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thriveindesign
🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design
Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/
Join the Thrive In Design: AI in Design Summit on May 20, 2026: https://tidsummit.com/
👋 Connect with Nicole
• Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben

Season 9 Trailer: Redefining Success, Sustainability, and Leadership in Design

Season 9 of Thrive In Design is here — and it’s an invitation to rethink how we build our businesses, our careers, and our lives in the design industry.
Hosted by Nicole Lashae Hall, this season continues the conversation around what it truly means to thrive as a designer, creative entrepreneur, or industry leader. In this trailer, Nicole shares what’s ahead for Season 9, including deeper discussions around sustainable growth, aligned leadership, and navigating the evolving realities of creative work without burnout.
Whether you’re an interior designer, architect, engineer, or creative professional craving more clarity, intention, and balance, Season 9 of Thrive and Design is designed to meet you where you are — and help you move forward with purpose.
New episodes are coming soon. Welcome to Season 9.
🕒 Trailer Timestamps
00:00 – Welcome to Thrive and Design00:18 – Introducing Season 900:45 – What this season will focus on01:20 – Who this season is for01:48 – What listeners can expect going forward02:10 – Closing + season launch reminder
🔗 Connect with Thrive In Design
Follow Thrive In Design for insights on design leadership, business strategy, and growth in the A&D industry:
Website: https://www.thriveindesign.co/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thriveindesign/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveindesign/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thriveindesign
🚀 Go Deeper with Thrive In Design
Take the SpecReady™ Assessment: https://specready.co/
Join the Thrive In Design Training Waitlist: https://training.thriveindesign.co/
👋 Connect with Nicole
• Nicole’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicoleben